the age of eleven Rhoda was a voluntary worker at the local RSPCA Kennels, at
Halewood. Rhoda cycled 2miles each way and worked from 7.00am to 8.30am then
4.30pm to 6.00pm Monday to Friday and 8.30am to 1.00pm Saturday and Sunday. This
voluntary work continued until she was fifteen, when she became employed at the
Kennels, staying for another 2 years, leaving to work for a well known poodle
breeder/exhibitor. Rhoda learnt a great deal over the next few years connected
with breeding, showing and grooming.
family had a household pet dog throughout my childhood, including a German
Shepherd Dog, rescued from the local RSPCA Kennels.
met when Rhoda was fourteen and I was sixteen, so dogs have been an important
part of our relationship from the beginning.
How did you encounter German Shepherd Dogs?
looked after many GSD in the RSPCA kennels and I had a GSD named Jack which was
a family pet.
Which was your first German Shepherd and did you research before
first GSD as a married couple was a family pet named Jessica (Tate), quickly
followed by two more, Kelly (long coat) and Kate. Rhoda was interested in
obedience and trained all of them at a BAGSD training club for a number of
years. No research was done before purchasing these Shepherds.
How did you establish your lines?
Rhoda was doing obedience at the BAGSD training club held at Pebble Mill, I
noticed some ring-craft training taking place for Show German Shepherd Dogs and
we decided to get involved in showing. We did some research and decided to
purchase a foundation bitch bred by the partnership of Malcolm Griffiths and
Sandra Somerset, Corona of Deavans (Tasha) sired by Ary vom Reusch out of
Bedwins Odessa (Iro vom Pilgersberg x Anja Kompturiehof) sister to Champion
Bedwins Onyx, owned by our friends Judy Lloyd (Judamie) and Malcolm.
was an excellent brood type and we did not show her, for her first litter she
was mated to the unfortunately named Mooridge City Slicker (Yozza), owned and
bred by our very good friends Alan & Tony Howson. Yossa was a son of Lido
Hambachtal and Ramadan Laura, a daughter of Barry vom Status Quo. Yossa was an
excellent typey male, black and red, very clean overline with a high wither and
a firm back, very sound hocks and an excellent temperament, all qualities which
we desire in our breeding. From this mating we produced Videx Havoc who became a
multiple Championship Show winner and produced Championship winners in every
What are the origins of your prefix?
were discussing possible names for our prefix and decided that it must reflect
our breeding objectives, after some considerable time we wrote down EX
for Excellent, then V1 for Excellent one, then D for Deutschland,
we them put them together to form VIDEX, this prefix represented our aim
to breed excellent German shepherds.
Did success come along quickly?
really, we were very patient because we realised that it would take time to
breed a top winner, fortunately in our first litter from Tasha we bred Havoc who
was a consistent Championship Show winner. We were very fortunate that Havoc
also proved to be an excellent producer, being the mother of Teeza, Dolly,
Wally, Yasso & Yola. Tragically Teeza had a hip score unsuitable for
breeding and our beautiful Yola had a pyometra infection following her second
season and died on the operating table aged 15 months. Tragedy is part of any
successful kennel and we have suffered our share, losing Aiko at 11 months, who
along with his brother Arak had dominated the minor puppy & puppy classes at
all the major Championship show that year, including many times Aiko first and
Arak second, including the Two Day show in Wales with over 60 entries in the
class. Fortunately we still had Amie who won 1 CC and 6 RCC's.
Quando at 7 years was an immense emotional blow to us, which still hurts today.
went on to produce our Champion Kurtridge Quando at Videx, Quando then produced
Dolly when he was mated back to his Grandmother Havoc, Quando also sired many
other winners, and played a major part in Bill Owens top producing Blerio
kennel, siring Blerio Affirmative and Blerio Obsession, both top producing
have been very lucky over many years and apart from breeding and owning many
championship show winners, winning over one hundred trophies, and hundreds of
rosettes, cards and medals, and notably a total to date of eight Challenge
Certificates and eleven Reserve Challenge Certificates, we have the pleasure of
living with many excellent shepherds, no matter how briefly in some cases, and
making many wonderful friends throughout the German Shepherd world. Of course
success inevitably brings along with it some of the worst human aspects, envy
and jealousy, which culminates into really vicious and hurtful behaviour, these
pathetic people should find another sport, well away from GSD's, as they truly
insult our magnificent breed.
7. Have you attempted to breed to a particular type?
have consistently tried to breed to type which is predominant in our breeds
homeland - Germany. We have also tried to achieve a high level of quality and
glamour, Videx Yasso, his son Champion Quando were of particular note in this
aspect. We are adamant regarding soundness in mind and body, and we certainly do
not subscribe to the 'far too frequently expressed view of some show breeders'
that you need a degree of 'nervousness' to get the best movers. Far to many
Judges promote FAST movers, rather than CORRECT movers, and far to many Judges
promote dogs of inferior construction, over dogs of much better construction,
just on movement. In our opinion the balance must always favour construction,
except where there is a clear fault in a well constructed dogs movement of some
significant degree, which may tip the balance. We certainly do not want GSD's
looking like Greyhounds, and I never want to see GSD's movement being judged
with a stop watch.
What if any, new bloodlines
have you introduced over the years?
introduction of new bloodlines is a continuous process for any successful
kennel, it is also one of the most important. Introducing bloodlines that
complement and improve your own lines is the key to success and this
differentiates the levels of success between GSD kennels throughout the world.
Luck can play a major part, however many of our most successful kennels
constantly research various bloodlines at our Shows and particularly the German
and other European Shows. The German Sieger Show is considered the pinnacle of
our many years of breeding we have introduced many new bloodlines with various
degrees of success. We have imported Lasso von Fidelius and Xalu vom Batu, who
possess many aspects of fundamental importance to the future of our kennel.
Particularly important to our kennel was the VA Odin vom Tannenmeise line and his Sieger son Jeck vom Noricum, who we consider to be a modern day pillar of our breed. We have introduced the lines of VA Natz vom Steigerhof, the excellent son of Nutz vom Monchberg (Mark Haus Beck) and a Sieger Fanto Hirschel daughter. We have also introduced Yassko von der Roten Matter, an excellent Sieger Jeck vom Noricum son. Yassko has a robust German Shepherd Dog character that he transmits to his offspring. The top producing female Gilla von Bad Boll, Xalu's mother is line bred 2-3 on Gilla. Kimbo vom Monchberg through a quarantine litter out of Yola von Fidelius (Sieger Jeck vom Noricum daughter). We have retained an excellent male Videx Cralo and two females. We are planning to mate one of these females to a top German male during 2000.
most recent introduction to our kennel is a Male "Bygoly El Devino"
out of the 1998 Youth Sieger Esko vom Danischen
Hof. Esko is one of the best constructed dogs in Germany and
truly bred in the purple, being out of VA Jango vom Furstenberg and a daughter
of Vice Sieger Karly vom Arminius. The mother of this Male is the beautiful
Wereunas Breeze, an International Champion Rosehurst Chris daughter owned by Sue Hadley of the Bygoly Kennels.
How do you select a stud dog?
exercise great care, paying particular attention to his character, bloodlines,
type and construction. It is of great value if there is progeny from the dog
which can be examined, this gives an indication of what he produces. We do not
mind how far we travel, or who owns the dog, if we think the dog will enhance
our kennels bloodlines we will use him. There are some faults that we will never
accept in a stud dog, such as weak character, unsoundness, and poor hip scores
or a producer of poor hip scores, and of course they must be haemophilia tested.
do not have to be Champions, or indeed show dogs, we are interested in what they
can produce to our bitch, without introducing an unacceptable fault.
Has any particular
dog impressed you over the years?
dog that impressed us the most was VA Odin vom Tannenmeise. Odin was a most
beautiful German Shepherd Dog and he is a model for comparison.
dogs that have impressed us are mentioned in the answer to question 8. The UK
shown dog that has impressed us the most over the years was Champion Alf vom
Quengelbach. The UK bred dog that has impressed us the most was Muscavas Rocky.
Which has been you own favourite?
is the most difficult question, but we have to choose Videx Havoc. Havoc was
successful in the show ring, but she excelled as a brood bitch. Havoc epitomises
the saying that a kennels success is in its bitches. She had a personality that
was truly unique, and she lived until she was 14 years old, and we still miss
her every day.
How do you choose a puppy for the show ring?
choose the most outstanding puppy in all departments, a puppy that fills the
eye, if there is not one in a litter we do not keep any. Showing is a time and
money consuming hobby and we can fully understand those enthusiasts that do not
show, but when you have 'something special' there is nothing like putting it in
the ring to test its attributes against others. Sadly many outstanding dogs do
not enter the show scene because of the negative attitudes of UK exhibitors,
which is a pity when you consider the falling show entries which will certainly
cause The Kennel Club to look at the number of CC's in our breed relative to the
number of entries. We should all be trying to develop a much more positive and
enjoyable atmosphere at our shows.
What do you look for in the temperament of the parents?
temperament is most important, and we look for Sound nerves, alertness,
self-confidence, trainability, watchfulness, loyalty and incorruptibility, as
well as courage, these are the outstanding characteristics of the German
What are your opinions about type, size, movement and temperament in the
believe that type generally is very good in the UK today, size is not a problem,
an outstanding oversize dog should not be put behind an inferior correct size
dog. Movement is improving but we must ensure that it is not wind assisted and
that movement does not become more important that overall construction and type.
is still improving, however we should take steps now to develop an acceptable
and meaningful temperament test along the lines of our European counterparts.
there is much less depth of quality in the showring today. The best in our breed
are outstanding but there are all to few of them. We believe that 5 years ago
the depth of quality was much greater, but since then many top kennels have
ceased showing or significantly reduced the number dogs they show. It is a real
eye opener to think of the names of kennels that exhibited successfully just 5
years ago, look at a catalogue of our first 2 day show at Weston Park, who do
not exhibit today. It could be a valuable exercise for the Breed Council to do a
survey and questionnaire of those kennels to obtain their reasons and commence a
programme to reverse the trend, a trend that is undermining the overall quality
of the breed in the UK.
What aspect of the breed
has deteriorated most in your opinion?
balance and harmonious construction,
this aspect is what sets the few best apart from the rest and is clearly seen
when the dogs are walking, perhaps this is why Judges in Germany spend most of
their time judging when the dogs are walking. Substance, forehands and quality
are other important areas that need attention.
Do you think we can learn from German breeders/exhibitors?
they and most other European countries have developed and are continuously
developing all aspects of our breed. The UK is so far behind and appears to have
little or no inclination to adopt these developments that we despair for the
breed within the UK.
far as we are concerned Germany has established the blueprint for the GSD so we
have a model to base ours on, we do not have to have exactly the same, but we
must ask ourselves "if not the German blueprint - WHY NOT? There has to be
clear, justifiable and understandable reasons for us to ignore the German
blueprint as adopted by the rest of Europe and many other countries. Many within
our breed will wish to exhibit in Europe when quarantine ends in the now
foreseeable future. Many more will want to be able to use top German stud dogs,
a must if we are to improve our dogs, do not be surprised if you encounter great
difficulties getting on the top dogs in Germany, and I believe these
difficulties will grow whilst we maintain our 'island mentality' and fail to
grasp the issues of compulsory tattooing, DNA testing, BH tests,
endurance (AD) tests, gun tests, breed surveys, and working tests (tracking,
obedience and protection). We hear the shout, The Kennel Club would not allow
this, we say, what a load of cobblers. These issues are a challenge, we should
accept the challenge and refuse to be defeated. I hear you say The Kennel Club
will never accept 'protection'! Well ask yourself why do the Kennel Club have PD
tests? No, there are no hiding places left and we must pick up the challenge and
run with it. Are we truly Germanic or are we just tinkering around the edges?
What has been your biggest thrill?
up Champion Kurtridge Quando at Videx must rank as our biggest thrill. He was a
son of Videx Yasso and Champion Greenstan Elkie.
What has been your biggest disappointment?
Videx Aiko at 11 months of age. Aiko had won at all the major shows, including
the 2 day Minor puppy with 66 entries and BATS. MP. with 35 entries, BAGSD. MP
24 entries, his brother Arek was 2nd at the first two of these shows
and at several other shows. We were very excited for his future prospects, many
fellow enthusiasts felt he would certainly make up. He suffered an inexplicable
heart attack, post mortem by two very reputable vets (Noble & Clifford).
How do you see the future development of the breed?
see the breed in Europe developing much faster than the UK, as it has done for
several years. When we adopt a series of compulsory requirements for breeding
stock in the UK, then we will see a rapid and growing improvement of the GSD in
the UK. Under these circumstances most casual breeders will stop breeding German
Shepherds and probably switch to a much easier breed to continue their casual
breeding. It should be remembered that approximately 10% of GSD in the UK are
hip scored, and approximately 5% are shown, therefore the vast majority of GSD
are from GSD's that would not qualify for registration in any other European
country, on just one of their minimum requirements of being hip scored. If we
can get our house in order and commence the introduction of compulsory
requirements similar to those in Germany then the major winner will be the
German Shepherd breed here in the UK.
Have you any advice to pass on?
German breeders and exhibitors say that their UK GSD counterparts are far to
negative about German Shepherds. They feel that far to many British GSD
enthusiasts first notice faults and then dwell on them, even when such faults
are obvious to everyone. These people state the fault loudly and repeatedly as
if they have discovered it. Many Germans
believe this spoils the sport and stops newcomers entering our sport, which
damages our sports future.
newcomers start with a relatively poor specimen, so they become targets for
these vehement negative opinions, freely expressed by these self appointed GSD
experts, and this ensures that the newcomers get out of the breed, or at the
very least stop exhibiting. The negative comments about their much loved
shepherd being just too much to bear. Germans say that every dog has its good
points and these must be brought to the fore, comment about faults should be
made with the greatest of care, and only when requested or necessary, and even
then said with the utmost of sensitivity. This practice in the UK would make our
sport far more enjoyable for everybody and our sport would grow and improve with
also believe that the spirit of teamwork should be developed more within our
breed, everybody can enjoy helping each other and working together for the
success of our breed. Minimum compulsory requirements would stimulate such a
development within our breed at local club level, and also at regional, national
and international levels.
& Rhoda Payne
German Shepherd Dogs